What's up everybody? I thought this would be a great topic for our first real blog. Sunday's sermon was over Acts 20:1-12, where Paul is forced to travel through Macedonia twice before he comes to Troas. Here he meets with other Christians during the night and talks on and on, until a young man, Eutyches, falls not only asleep, but out the third story (second in modern terms) window of the home they are meeting in, plummeting to his death. We highlighted the passion Paul had to stay up speaking about life with God and asked whether we as Christians feel passionate like Paul, or more bored to death like Eutyches in our relationship with the Lord. I got an e-mail from Matt VanGent, a "regular" with us at The Rising, and I thought his insights were brilliant. So, I asked if I could post it on the blog and find out what others think. Below is his e-mail, as well as my response and his reply to my e-mail. Enjoy and comment!
- Josh
Josh, what's up, it's Matt VanGent.
Everything you were saying last night really got me thinking. You
talked a lot about having a passionate relationship with God, one where we
should be like Paul who can't shut up because he's so stoked about it.
And I think that is totally valid and a great point. It also seemed
like people who are passionate about God should be able to stay awake
while others talk forever about it. Here's my question: what if a
passionate relationship with God is about way more than sitting around in a
room and listening to someone talk about Him? What if it's more about
our actions? I personally get very antsy sitting around listening to
people talk about God, especially if it's a room full of Christians. I
think i would be somewhat like Eutychus here. Instead of falling asleep
though, I think I would jump out of the window out of excitement for
telling everyone I could about this amazing God. I think the distinction
that needs to be made is in regards to the audience. I'm all for
talking about God and being excited about it. But when it's directed at a
bunch of people who already believe, I think there comes a point when
talk becomes cheap and action needs to take place. Basically, I don't
know if I would equate a passionate relationship with God to sitting
around talking about Him. I think that is definitely part of it, but I
think it is about so much more than that. I don't even know if that's the
point you were driving at last night, but that's what I was hearing.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Let me know what you think if you get a
chance.
In Him,
Matt VanGent
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Matt, thanks for the message man...it was beautifully stated and I think others, myself included, would definitely agree. What struck me about the passage when I kept going over it is the WHY. Why does Paul keep talking on and on, and why does Eutyches seem so uninterested? The reason that I came up with is because Paul has seen and experienced the power of God. I mean he's experienced miracles first-hand most of us only dream of. When you have that kind of relationship with God, where you see and experience Him daily you are bound to be more passionate in your faith, and so because Paul makes God his number one priority (in actuality Paul makes God's missional purpose his #1 priority) and because his relationship with God is so strong, he naturally is passionate for the things of God. Eutyches on the other hand made other activities in his life a priority and so did not experience the same passion.
Matt, I can be a proud guy, but I have to admit after talking with people afterwards and reflecting on your e-mail, I think my initial impressions of the passage were misguided, if not wrong. I think your statement sums up the problem with the sermon last night: "I don't know if I would equate a passionate relationship with God to sitting around talking about Him." There couldn't have been a better way of putting the problem with the sermon. I kept looking at Eutyches and seeing his lack of passion and wondering what is wrong, and why do I and most Christians feel like him? At times I think it might be because we are not making our relationship with God our #1 priority, and so we naturally become less passionate about the things we spend little time investing in. But, I think the deeper comment and more applicable to our group at The Rising would be that it may not have been Eutyches fault. The answer to the question of WHY Paul kept on talking may be because he was passionate, but maybe his passion is misdirected. Maybe Paul is like a lot of Christians, always talking about God and never showing people God. Maybe that's what Paul was doing at the end, showing people the love and power of God, and maybe this is why his actions are recorded and not many of his words.
Anyway, thanks for the e-mail, fire one back when you get a second to reflect on this some more, but I think you hit a major problem with Christians and Christianity. Like I did last night, we are quick to talk and slow to act. Would you care if I shared your e-mail with the group next Sunday? I think others will really identify with what you said. Thanks again man!
Because He lives!
Josh
P.S. If you don't mind, I'd also love to put our discussion up on The Rising blog, so we can see what others think. Let me know how you feel about this. Thanks!
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Josh,
Yeah dude, you can totally do whatever you want with my email on sunday and for the blog. I like what you said about Paul being so passionate because he experienced God first hand. I think there is definitely a place for sharing what God has done, and for someone like Paul I can see how that could take all night. The bottom line as I see it is this: there is a place for both. There's a place for telling people about all that God has done, and there's a place for proving it to them with our actions. I guess it's a both/and instead of an either/or. Those are my initial thoughts on what you wrote. I'll keep thinking about it though and get back to you if I come up with anything else. Peace, Matt